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2 HP ZR24W PSU Repair
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4
5 :Author: David Douard
6 :Category: Electronics
7 :Tags: ZR24W, PSU, PWB-1336-02, TPS-10036
8
9 A friend of mine had a problem with his (a bit old) 24" HP monitor: the device
10 was working properly, but only for a while (few minutes at most).
11
12 Looked like a good candidate for a quick repair, problem being most probably
13 bad caps are so.
14
15 The first step was to find out how to disassemble the down thing, since these
16 "modern" things are not designed to be serviced and have no screw, only plastic
17 clips which are so easy to break.
18
19 Whatever, I finally succeded in opening the box (with only one or 2 broken
20 clips).
21
22 Overview
23 ========
24
25 Inside the beast, the usual stuff under the shields:
26
27 - a PSU,
28 - a main controller board,
29 - an LCD driver board, and the monitor being a bit old,
30 - a blacklight HV driver board.
31
32
33 .. image:: {filename}images/ZR24W/back.jpg
34 :alt: Back of the HP ZR24W
35
36 First thing, to make sure the problem comes from the PSU, I powered the monitor
37 from my bench power supplies. I used one output of my HP E3648A to generate the
38 19V rail that powers the backlight. It was a bit short (CC limited at 16V), but
39 enough to power the backlight. The second output was used to produce the 12V,
40 and the 5V was generated by my very old home made PSU.
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42 .. image:: {filename}images/ZR24W/ext_power.jpg
43 :alt: Testing the display with my bench PSU.
44
45 The monitor was working fine when powered from these PSUs, so the problem was,
46 indeed, this Tatung PWB-1336-02 switching PSU:
47
48 .. image:: {filename}images/ZR24W/psu_top.jpg
49 :alt: Top of the Tatung PWB-1336-02 PSU
50
51 .. image:: {filename}images/ZR24W/psu_bottom.jpg
52 :alt: Bottom view of the Tatung PWB-1336-02 PSU
53
54 The design is nice and clean. Electrolytic caps however are not the best ones
55 (mostly Lelong ones I think), which is not really a surprise in this kind of
56 device.
57
58 At first sight, nothing strike the eye, no leaky cap, no burnt resistor or
59 PCB...
60
61 Not a 10mn fix, in the end.
62
63 The PSU generates 3 voltages:
64
65 - 5V @2.7A
66 - 12V @0.8A
67 - 19V @3.2A
68
69
70 Finding the problematic power rail
71 ==================================
72
73 There is a hard switch on the PSU, next to the IEC socket, and When the power
74 is on, the 5V is hot, wether the monitor is on or in standby.
75
76 When the display is powered on, the 2 other voltages are started.
77
78 The pin 10 on the cable between the PSU and the main CPU board is dedicated
79 to the "power saving" state. It must be high (at 5V, which is always present)
80 to enable the 2 other voltages.
81
82 Note that there are 2 other pins dedicated to power management (pin 11 and 12,
83 marked as "On/Off" and "Vadj"). But these are directly routed to the backlight
84 board and take no part in the PSU management.
85
86
87 My first test has been to plug my cheap `electronic load
88 <{filename}/ZPB30A1.rst>`_ on the 5V with the 2 other voltages stopped.
89
90 And I could reliably sink 3A from there. So the problem must be on one of the 2
91 other rails.
92
93 But I also could sink the max amperage from the 2 other power rails (1A from
94 the 12V and 3.5A from the 19V)...
95
96 Ok, so each power rail seems to work fine alone.
97
98 But when I sink current from the 5V rail while the 2 other voltages are up,
99 then the PSU fails after a short while.
100
101 I've tried to probe a bit the switching curves using my Rigol DS1054, but the
102 PSU being "hot" (around 400V), and having no isolation transformer, I could not
103 probe the signals correctly (using 2 probe and displaying the A-B curve, which
104 is some kind of a joke on the Rigol, since you cannot hide the A and B curves:
105 the curve substraction is purely computed from displayed curve. When I found
106 how useless this was on the Rigol, I had not enough energy to extract my old
107 `Tek 2445A <{filename}/TeK2445.rst>`_ from under the pile of test equipment
108 stowed in the closet...)
109
110
111 A glimpse at schematics
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113
114 At this point, I needed to try to understand a bit the schematic. I wasn't even
115 sure the problem came from this side of the PSU, it could also be a problem in
116 the "isolated" part (bad caps, bad optocoupler, bad voltage reference...). I
117 had checked the main caps, and they seemed to be ok (not quality japanese
118 brands, but still the correct value and low ESR).
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120
121 On the live part, before the transformers, there are 2 chips :
122
123 - a TNY279PN_ dedicated to the 5V rail
124 - a CM6807_ for the 19V rail
125
126 The 12V is produced from the 19V rail by a small DC to DC converter (FP6185_).
127
128 In fact, this PSU design is almost just the 2 application circuits (found in
129 their respective datasheets) merged together.
130
131 The noticable points are:
132
133 - The TNY279PN DC input can be come from either the input bridge rectifiers
134 (via a diode and a thermistor), or, when powered, by the DC produced by the
135 CM6807 via the PFC circuit. So when the CM6807 is down (when the monitor is
136 in standby), the DC input for the TNY279 is around 318V, but when the monitor
137 is on, the CM6807's PFC circuit rise this voltage to almost 400V.
138
139 - The bias winding, normally used to power the TNY279 (to allow a very low
140 no-load power consumption, datasheet says <50mw) also powers the CM6807.
141
142 A funny side effect of this design is that the CM6807 cannot be started if
143 there is no load on the 5V rail: in this case, the auxiliary voltage of the
144 transformer managed by the TNY279 is not enough to start the CM6807.
145
146
147 The application circuits are as follow:
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149 .. image:: {filename}images/ZR24W/tny279_app_circuit.svg
150 :alt: Example application circuit for the TNY279PN controller (from the `datasheet <TNY279PN>`_)
151
152 .. image:: {filename}images/ZR24W/CM6807_app_circuit.svg
153 :alt: Example application circuit for the CM6807 controller (from the `datasheet <CM6807>`_)
154
155 In this PSU, the input DC of the TNY279 (the point just before R5 in the app
156 circuit) in connected just behind the PFC circuit, i.e. just after the D2 diode
157 of the CM6807 app circuit.
158
159 In order for the PSU to generate the 5V rails even when the CM6807 is off,
160 there is derivated DC input path, from the bridge rectifier to the input DC
161 rail, consisting in a diode (D922 on the PCB) followed by a thermistor (R915):
162
163 .. image:: {filename}images/ZR24W/input_DC.jpeg
164 :alt: Input DC showing both paths (yellow: via the PFC, red: the alternate
165 path when power saving is on).
166
167
168 Finally, the culprit
169 --------------------
170
171 While testing the PSU powering the CM6807 from an external source, I notices
172 another strange behaviour: the TNY279 enters a failure as soon as I sink
173 current from the 5V rail, but it remains faulty as long as I let the CM6807,
174 thus the PFC running, and the input DC at 400V (instead of 318V when the PFC is
175 not activated)..
176
177 At this point, I though there is not way the problem can come from the 5V
178 regulation loop, neither from the CM6807 circuit, so the only culprit left
179 would be either the TNY279PN or a component close to it, a cap (especially the
180 BP/M one), a diode or a resistor. So I tested these parts (again, to be fair),
181 and I replaced the cap connected to the BP/M pin. With no improvement, the only
182 remaining faulty part must be the TNY279PN.
183
184 So I decided to buy a couple of them from RS, and 2 days later I replaced it,
185 which did fix the PSU.
186
187 What a tricky half-failing part!
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191
192 .. _TNY279PN:
193 https://www.power.com/sites/default/files/product-docs/tny274-280.pdf
194 .. _CM6807: http://www.championmicro.com.tw/datasheet/Analog%20Device/CM6807.pdf
195 .. _FP6185: http://www.feeling-tech.com.tw/km-master/ezcatfiles/cust/img/img/24/fp6185drv02-g1.pdf

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